So I’ve been participating in the comments of a blog post by BJ called “An Open Letter To Those Who Doubt or Deny God“.
Recently, a Christian named Marc responded to one of my posts. So I responded. Then he responded back with this. To someone who’s managed (usually by accident, though sometimes on purpose) to get into arguments with theists before, this type of condescension is incredibly, and depressingly, familiar. Marc decides to psychoanalyze my life and conclude that I must be very unhappy.
This should be familiar to probably all atheists reading.
Thank you for the response. But you never have provided any proof of more than one God.
Um… when was I supposed to? I don’t need to provide proof of the existence of more than one god, because I don’t believe in any gods. However, if you really don’t believe that we humans have imagined the existence of thousands of god… I really don’t know what to say to you. Maybe take a History of Religion course or a Mythology course or something?
I do believe in the existence of human imagination, so… yeah…
Your variance of using the Goddess of Greek mythology is nice, but it is no more evidence that she was not the same God that Christians worship only through the eyes of someone that saw her rather than him. How do you know that whoever saw the Greek Goddess for the first time was not seeing an angel sent from the one true God?
Who is your “One True God”? Is this the same god who said that a man who has sex with a man should be killed (Leviticus 20:13)? Is this the same god who prescribed death for people who work on the Sabbath (Exodus 31:14-15, Exodus 35:2, Numbers 15:32-36)? Is this the same god who explained how to sell your daughter, and what to do to her if she fails to please her new master (Exodus 21:7-8)?
In other words… are you a Christian?
I just want to get this cleared up…
You don’t. You are making more assumptions and trying to cloak those assumptions in intellectual verbage and pass them off as proof. But that is no more prooof than an author telling you that Gulliver made many voyages around a strange new world and that being a fact. Just becuase you say it, that does not make it a fact. I still ask my same question, how do YOU know that thousands of God’s exist?
I don’t know that thousands of gods exist. I know that, throughout history, human beings have imagined thousands of gods. Bit of a difference.
I would think that someone with such a fervent view that God does not exist would not spend this much effort on saying that thousands do exist.
Except I’m not. I’m saying that human beings have imagined thousands of god, which is very different from saying that thousands of gods exist.
But more importantly you need ot be educated and I will do my best to help with that. Until we talk again. “Taste and see that the Lord is good, blessed is the man who takes refuge in Him.” ~ Psalm 34:8
First off, I do not appreciate the insult (and intent is not magic, so I really don’t care what your intention was) implied by your statement that I “need to be educated”. Second, if you think quoting a bible verse at me is going to mean anything to me, you’ve obviously never actually talked to an atheist before.
That’s a bit like if I decided to quote AC Grayling’s “The Good Book” to you… it’d have about the same amount of meaning…
You obviously live a very unhappy existence and want to share your misery with those that are very content and happy with their beliefs in their chosen God (no matter which one it is).
I’m sorry, but who the hell do you think you are to tell me whether or not I’m happy? I’m actually extremely excited for my future.
I’m studying Cultural Anthropology, Evolutionary Biology, and Primatology. I’m very interested in understanding where Fanaticism comes from. I’m also minoring in Commercial Music. I play guitar, write music, and sing, and I’m trying to get recorded right now. My future looks pretty awesome, thanks.
It’s true that I’m a naturally stressed out person, but I’m happy, okay? You don’t get to decide that for me and screw you very much for it.
Why would someone want to do that? You obviously do not have a relationship that will last you beyond this life.
Since there is nothing beyond this life…
So you are miserable in this life.
Nope. But thanks for being a condescending ass…
That is so sad. If you are right and this is it, then you are missing out my friend.
I’m not missing out on anything.
I am perfectly happy with my life. I know that God exists. I spoke to God and heard His voice clearly speak back to me.
Um… you may want to see a psychiatrist about that. Hearing voices is not a good sign.
(If you found that insulting, now you how I feel about your need to judge whether or not I’m happy.)
This is not worth finishing. You are a condescending ass. You are an example of why I’m an antitheist. You sit there thinking you’ve scored some point against an “evil atheist” when all you’ve done is proven yourself to be narcissistic and possibly slightly delusional. I don’t care that you believe in god or feel all high and mighty or whatever, but you talk to me like I’m a 5 year boy crying for something he can’t have, when I’m 26 years old, in school, living on my own, and working. I’m a political activist for Progressive causes, I listen to Citizen Radio, Led Zeppelin is the greatest band ever, I watch Doctor Who, I write music, I have ideas for stories that would make amazing movies and TV shows if I could find someone to write them, and I’m fascinated by the Universe and Theoretical Physics and Cosmology and the Theory of Everything.
You have no right to judge me, nor do you have any information about who I am in order to judge me.
I don’t know who you think you are, but you are not fit to judge me. I suggest you keep that in that the next time you come across an atheist, because you do not know that person.
Christians one and all, now hear me:
You are NOT better than everybody else. You are NOT living on some higher plane, looking down on the rest of the world. The fact that you are a Christian means NOTHING in this world to anyone but YOU. Got it? Don’t you dare assume that non-Christians are unhappy. It is not for you decide these things and you do this, you only make yourself look evil. Keep that in my the next time you feel the need to be condescending towards an atheist, because your words are only saying things about you… unflattering things.